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a6000 review - puzzled

Postby Diver2 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:01 am

I hold this site in high regard. But the review of the Sony a6000 has left me rather baffled. Maybe it´s because of all the comparing categories that have evolved rather confusingly over the years. "Midrange, upper-midrange, entry, lower range, as compared to other 2011, semi-pro" and so on. I understand the confusion on behalf of the site - but it´s still confusing for the reader as well.
Now I don´t care if the a6000 is being "recommended" or "highly recommended". I think - with the AF-accomplishments according to the review itself - the "highly recommended" is the only obvious one. Seems as if this down right stunning feature puts it in a league of its own - or pair it with fully - and much more costly - pro DSLRs. As always this review is good and thorough and concentrates on the main feature: the AF-tracking abilities (the holy grail of the mirrorless cameras). And the a6000 scores as a pro - but "only" gets "recommended". Gordon mentions the nikon 5300, the 70d and the olympus omd em10 (the other comparative mirrorless cameras are named "semi-pro"?? - because of buttons!?) but hesitate to put the a6000 up against the 70d directly (with regards to viewfinder AF capabilities ) all though this camera seems to be the main DSLR-rival. And yet:

Gordon writes:

"Only the Canon EOS 70D can compete with the A6000 for continuous AF in Live View, but it costs at least 50% more and only shoots at 7fps. (Although it does have a much more useful fully articulated touchscreen)."

But is that in fact true? Can the 70d (which was "highly recommended") really compete? This is what Gordon wrote about the 70D:

"Enable Continuous AF though and the process becomes noticeably quicker. With the 70D pre-focusing on the target and refocusing if or when it moves, it normally has little if anything to do when you eventually press the shutter release. Indeed with Continuous AF enabled, the 70D's focusing speed for reasonably static subjects becomes as fast as, say, the Olympus OMD EM5, which is one of the quickest mirrorless cameras for single AF acquisition.

But it's not all good news. Take a photo at the same time with a mirrorless camera and the EOS 70D, and while they may both focus and react at the same speed, the 70D will generally take much longer to return you to back to a capture view. With image review disabled, I timed the 70D taking around two seconds between the shot being taken and the live view returning for composition. In contrast, a native mirrorless camera like the Olympus OMD EM5 took less than a second between taking a photo and returning you to a live view. This may not sound like a big deal written down, but in practice I found the 70D's live view was frustratingly slow when taking portraits or shots of kids in live view. Sure the focus and response once the live image was available was quick, but it took too long before I could recompose and shoot again for subsequent shots."

I may be missing something. But is sounds to me as if the a6000 is capable of things that not even the 70D can muster? And yet, is rated as a midrange camera that´s only recommended. Does it make sense?

Anyway, I applaud Gordon´s intentions of trying out the AF-system with other lenses as well. That makes a lot of sense for people who already bought into the system. I would be very interested in how the a6000 fare with the good but rather slow 55-210. Can the AF still keep up?
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Re: a6000 review - puzzled

Postby MattALangley » Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:13 am

A great review as usual, though I will point out (figured I'd do it here rather than another thread) a possible wrong statement... Gordon, you say:

The top speed of 1/4000 is normal for a camera in this price bracket although it's revealing to note Sony does not yet offer a mirrorless camera with 1/8000, unlike Panasonic and Olympus at the top of their ranges.

While the A7 does in fact support 1/8000 and is priced right along side the Top of the range mirrorless cameras from the others.
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Re: a6000 review - puzzled

Postby zackiedawg » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:43 pm

Also worth pointing out a few small mistakes, Gordon...

1. the A6000 actually DOES include MFNR, standard. Go to the camera's ISO settings, scroll up past 'auto', and you'll see 'auto' inside of a multiframe box...hit the left or right arrows to switch from Auto to any manual ISO setting up to ISO51,200...this is the multi-frame noise reduction mode. No app needed.

2. Also, you may want to check if you have the most updated version of the Sony smartphone remote app - with the most updated version, you should be able to control just about everything with version 2.1. Here's the summary on the Sony page:
•Able to smoothly adjust optical zoom*.
* With power zoom lens attached. It controls digital zoom, including Clear Image Zoom, when other lenses are attached.
•Able to control flash setting.
•Added touch AF capability from smartphones and tablets for more intuitive operation.
•Able to change values for EV compensation as well as for the aperture, shutter speed, ISO, and white balance.
•Supports MF Assist,*1 a useful function when focusing manually. The larger monitor on a tablet or smartphone makes it easier to fine-tune the focus than on the camera’s monitor, which is a great help for macro and portrait shots.
• You can check the focus of your shot immediately on your smartphone or tablet by magnifying the recorded image.
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Re: a6000 review - puzzled

Postby BDLAB » Sun May 04, 2014 2:17 pm

Thanks for the extensive A6000 review.

But these statements are simply wrong:

" I normally prefer to remove the memory card from the camera and use a card reader to get the files onto my computer,
but the A6000 doesn't let you do this for AVCHD video clips."

You can access the AVCHD *.mts files direct on your SD card/Memory Stick with a card reader or the
camera in Mass Storage Mode at this location: (root)\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM

In comparision, GH3 AVCHD *.mts files are located on: (root)\PRIVATE\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM.

" You'll also notice during playback that, like some other Sony cameras, the movie files are
presented separately to the still photos, so you won't always see them while simply tapping back
and forth in playback."

This was true for the NEX-6 but with the A6000 things have changed. You can now browse stills and movie clips
while tapping back and forth in playback.

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Re: a6000 review - puzzled

Postby Gordon Laing » Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:00 pm

Hi everyone, I've made a number of corrections and updates to my A6000 review including a large update to the CAF section. You may also enjoy a companion article I wrote about my experiences shooting with the A6000 at the Tour de France - see: Mirrorless Sports Photography. Indeed they made me reconsider and upgrade my rating of the A6000 to highly recommended.

PS - the AVCHD file issue is still confusing me. When viewing the files on a Mac, they are shown as one big single file, not as separate ones. Maybe this is a Windows vs Mac thing as I remember when using Windows computers this wasn't an issue.
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