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Postby DD_nVidia » Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:03 pm

Thomas - what?

No bluray support... thats a bit mad? I thought if everything was HDCP compatible it would work fine?

What about all the HTPC's going to be shipping with windows 7 and bluray drives... I doubt they just wont play movies. You'll need software to do it, sure, but thats a given, just like you needed dvd playback software on XP back in the day.
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Postby Thomas » Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:07 pm

Ah, sorry: "bluray support" in this case means "free bluray support".
You still have to buy a third-party decoder for bluyray.
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Postby DD_nVidia » Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:14 pm

They not ship a) with the HTPC or b) with the drive?

I'm sure I remember DVD drives shipping with it at one point

and most computers if not all ship with dvd decoding software if you buy from a company.
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Postby Thomas » Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:26 pm

If you buy a bluray drive there normally is some crippled version of a player. With my drive it was PowerDVD9 with only stereo sound. Buying the full version was something in the range of another 90EUR. So this doubles the price of switching to W7 :shock:

"and most computers if not all ship with dvd decoding software if you buy from a company." DVD:yes, Bluray:???
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Postby DD_nVidia » Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:37 pm

I ment to say bluray not dvd there haha!

Yeah I can't imagine any machine which is advertised to play back bluray from any of the big vendors being crippled by software... They'll buy licenses in the hundreds of thousands so it'll cost them a LOT less.
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Postby popo » Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:29 pm

Still installing...

Found a new feature which is interesting to me - the ability to create a backup image of the system from within the system without reverting to 3rd party tools. Might be handy for those who reinstall regularly too. Do the install and configuration once, save the image and restore later if you need a fresh start without having to install and configure every little detail again.

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Postby Bob Andersson » Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:23 pm

Hi popo,

That facility exists in Vista as well if you have the right edition. It worked very well when I suffered a HDD failure on my Media PC. I still think it a pity that the old XP NTBackup utility wasn't retained as well but I find that Super Flexible File Synchronizer backups to network storage plus the new Windows backup image to a USB HDD cover all the bases.

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P.S. As I understand it W7 "Home Premium" and below don't include the backup software but maybe I've got it wrong. :?
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Postby popo » Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:32 pm

I already do file level backups, but until now not had the ability to do images. The new install I have of Win7 HP certainly gives the option to do an image backup. With some 30GB of space used, it created a 10GB file on an external USB drive. Note it only works on NTFS destinations but fortunately windows comes with the "convert" command line tool for quick and simple migration.

I went back to my Vista Home Premium box to double check. That does offer a backup utility but no image creating option.
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Postby Gordon Laing » Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:09 pm

So does anyone have any recommended software for playback of Blu ray on Windows 7? I was using Power DVD under XP, but may switch to Total Media Theater.
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Postby janern » Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:52 pm

Bob Andersson wrote:.
But remember that if you are about to do a fresh install then you should "deactivate" your apps where appropriate before you do anything else. Failure to do so may mean that when you reinstall them and use your activation code that activation may fail as the code has been used too many times. This happened to me earlier this year with two apps and I ended up wasting a lot of time persuading the companies concerned that I wasn't a pirate. :roll:

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Postby Thomas » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:20 am

As far as I see, Office 2007 has no deactivate button.
But you should be careful with Adobe CS software.
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Postby Bob Andersson » Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:38 am

Thomas wrote:As far as I see, Office 2007 has no deactivate button.
But you should be careful with Adobe CS software.

Same deal with Outlook 2003 which makes it all the more galling when I had to 'phone up Microsoft to get their permission to reinstall my software.

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Postby lowliferider » Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:53 pm

Gordon Laing wrote:So does anyone have any recommended software for playback of Blu ray on Windows 7? I was using Power DVD under XP, but may switch to Total Media Theater.


Gordon, if your PC is HP I would recommend HP Quickplay. Apparently WMP12 will be blue ray compatible

Or get a PS3... 8)


I would like to say Windows 7 is really great, but I still feel nostalgic for XP.
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Postby Thomas » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:12 pm

"Apparently WMP12 will be blue ray compatible"
Really? WMP11 could not even play a DVD if you didn't install a decoder first. Quote from MS-central: "To play DVDs using the Player, you must have a DVD drive and a software or hardware DVD decoder installed on your computer. By default, Windows does not include a DVD decoder."
Same holds true for WMP12 under W7: DVD/DluRay-decoding is NOT included in WMP12 :shock:
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Postby lowliferider » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:35 pm

I don't know but found this link:
http://windows7news.com/2009/10/13/how- ... windows-7/

maybe windows7 is not that bad after all- But I'm still buying an Imac the 27'' one in December...
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